What was your experience on a video chat site like omegle or chatroulette?

SK: I never used it. I think it's a terrible idea to try and force people to use a particular interface. I just think that chat software is such an important interface, and we should be using it properly, and giving it a proper makeover, and giving it a fresh coat of paint every now and then, to make sure that it's ready for the inevitable. I just don't think that you should be using a webcam to film somebody and force them to do what you want them to do. That's just really abusive, and it shouldn't be possible to say no to a stranger, especially not without compromising your physical safety.

RT: So would you say that the original poster of this article, who went by the handle of Robin Williams, abused his position to film and distribute child sexual abuse?

SK: Oh yeah. Absolutely. That's his exact interpretation.

RT: And who today has the audacity to say that no one else on the internet has any responsibility, whatsoever, whatsoever, for what happens in those chat rooms?

SK: Well, I would say there is a problem, and it's got a lot of people involved, and it's got to do with people not talking to each other, people not sharing what's going on their computers, what they're doing with their own personal computers, what they're sharing with people they think might be harmful.

RT: And who today has the audacity to say that the internet has not, in fact, made sex more available?

SK: No. I mean, look, we have certainly made it more dangerous. Right now, in the US, right now, 18 percent of all gun murders are done with a computer. In some of the countries in this report, like Australia, it's up to 59 percent. The most dangerous place on the internet is Sweden, where 86 percent of all child sex-related crimes are committed.

RT: Do you believe that people are actually safer using virtual private networks or peer-to-peer, or even webcams?

SK: I don't know if we've actually seen a change in the behaviour of people who commit these crimes. It's possible that video chats have become safer over time, depending on who's filming it and what's happening on the screen. But I don't think that today, in a court of law, we'll ever see that change, because the behaviour of the people actually filming the crime is of no relevance.

RT: So let's take trafficking. Back in 2009, what had happened was that an unauthorised video had gone viral featuring somebody who appeared to have just offered sex to get onto a website.

The video had been shared more than 320,000 times, had been viewed more than 3.5 million times, and had convinced at least one person --